Climbing Mt. St. Ogustine:

Modified Ogust -- then and now


Gordon Bower



(Sorry about the bad pun. Mt. St. Augustine is an island volcano in Alaska, steep and inaccessible though prominently visible from many places on the mainland. It's easy to see room for improvement in standard Ogust, but coming up with the perfect package of responses to weak twos is a steep order.)

Then

In my longtime partnership with Michael Schmahl, we initially simply agreed to play all our responses to weak twos as described in Andersen and Zenkel's Preempts from A to Z: simple Ogust; new suits forcing; jump shifts control-asking bids. At some point we used a 3C response as asking for opener's singleton, but it hardly ever came up, so I can't honestly remember when we started playing it.

Eventually we got to thinking about Ogust. We quickly formalized the notion of "good suit" as "2 of the top 3 honours," as recommended in many of the standard sources. That got us wondering how best to formalize the notion of "good hand." Ultimately we agreed that our first- and second-seat weak twos would promise QJxxxx or better in our bid suit, and at most one stopper outside trump. We would use the "hand" part of Ogust to show or deny the presence of that outside stopper.

We quickly realized that we might care which stopper opener had, so we reorganized the Ogust responses to 2H and 2S to give us room to find out:

  • 3C showed 1 of the top 3, and promised an outside stopper. Responder could ask where it was with 3D, and opener would answer with 3 of the unbid major (natural), 3 of his own major (diamonds), or 3NT (clubs).
  • 3D showed 2 of the top 3, and promised an outside stopper. There wasn't room for a full asking sequence, so we just focused on the unbid major for the followups: responder's rebid of 3 of the unbid major said "bid 3NT if you have this suit stopped."
  • 3 of opener's major was the weakest response (1 of the top 3, no stopper.)
  • 3 of the other major was 2 of the top 3, no stopper.
  • 3NT was still AKQxxx.
  • In a nutshell, 3C was the most frequent and complicated hand, and 3 of opener's major was the weakest response.

    This was a more comforable arrangement over 2S than over 2H. Over 3D the same principles applied, sort of: 3C was as above (with responder's 3H and 3S rebids both saying "bid 3NT if you have a stopper"), 3D was the weakest bid, 3H was a good suit with a stopper, and 3S was a good suit without a stopper. But it was hard to get much use out of the rearrangement of the steps over 2D, and we both found it hard to remember the order of the steps.

    Michael and I tried to introduce this to a mutual third partner in 2011, but ultimately abandoned the above modification of Ogust. For a time, he went on to some other relay-like experiments, and I (shock! horror!) went back to playing Features.

    Now

    In summer 2013, I got interested in Ogust refinements again. I still felt, as I did 10 years prior that 3M, not 3C, should be the weakest rebid, and 3C should be the hand-type most likely to need followup questions.

    In the meantime, I had come to another realization: my weak two style varied dramatically with the vulnerability-- as preempts should. In effect, using classical Ogust, I would only ever use the weakest two or three responses at favorable, and would only ever use the two strongest at unfavorable. Perhaps it would make more sense to redefine the Ogust rebids on a sliding scale that matched the vulnerability.

    On further reflection, I realized that the kind of hands that I opened with weak twos was affected by the vulnerability in an interesting way. For pure preempt hands, I was applying the "rule of 2, 3, and 4." With a hand like SKQJxxx Hxx Dxx Cxxx I almost always open at the 3-level favorable; at equal vulnerability this is a spot-on sound weak two, at unfavorable it is close to the worst pure-preempt hand I would still open 2S. But there were hands with outside values that I would open with the same weak two at any vulnerability-- say SKJxxxx HAxx Dxx Cxx. I adhere strictly to the "never have two defensive tricks for a preempt" rule, but am willing to open a weak two with "two aces" hands. That is -- it appears that it makes sense to vary some, but not all, of my Ogust rebid definitions with the vulnerability.

    Now, the final ingredient in creating a better Ogust: as responder, what questions do I want answered, when I use Ogust? If I care about how good your support for my suit is, I should bid my suit and see if you raise. But I might use Ogust if —

    As before, our two areas of focus will be trump quality and side stoppers. How best to handle the trump quality question? "Do you have 2 of the top 3 honors?" and "Can I run your suit opposite (say) Kx" are almost but not quite the same question. And I sometimes open a weak two on a 5-card suit, at favorable vulnerability: knowing the suit will run might not always mean having six winners.

    I will present my chosen solution in a table, then elaborate on how it is used and its rationale. After 2S-2NT:

    After any of the above, responder's bid of 3S or any game or slam is to play; one can either use 4C as an artifical shortness-ask, or have all new-suit bids between 3M and 4M be control-asking bids (in effect asking for shortness in that suit.)

    Over a 2H opening, 2S is the asking bid; the entire structure is slid down one step (and 3S rather than 4C can be the follow-up shortness ask.) 2H-2NT shows a spade suit. Since 2H-2S(natural and forcing)-2NT never made much sense as a natural bid anyway (opener can't have both minors stopped), loss of the extra step seems not to matter. The simplest rebid scheme after 2H-2NT seems to work: 3C or 3D, feature, no spade fit; 3H, minimum, no spade fit; 3S, minimum, spade fit; jump shifts, splinters promising Hxx in spades.

    Over a 2D opening, there is some question whether to use this structure at all; 2M natural and forcing and 2NT asking something simpler is reasonable. Alternatively, one can use 2D-2H as Ogust, 2D-2S as hearts, and 2D-2NT as spades. It depends how much artificiality is to your taste.

    Varying with vulnerability

    The 3H and 3S "pure preempt" rebids vary strongly with vulnerability.

    At favorable, "minimum" pure preempts ought to provide 4 tricks, or close to it: QJTxxx, or KTxxxx, or similar -- or KQJxx or AQT9x, if you open 5-card suits. "Maximum" pure preempts should provide about 4½ or more. KQxxxx, AJTxxx, AQxxxx, or AKJTx. Responder needs two of the top three to expect six tricks opposite a minimum; at least Kx, opposite a maximum.
    For six-card suits, "maximum" is nearly synonymous with "2 of the top 3," except for AJT-high. Pure preempts as strong as KQJTxx or AQJxxx will likely open at the 3-level vulnerable. (KJTxxx can probably safely count itself as maximum; responder looking at Qx will know AK-high is unlikely and a responder with Ax has an even chance at running the suit.)

    At equal, anything less than 5 tricks is minimum: KJT-, KQT-, AJT-, and AQ-empty suits. A maximum requires very good intermediates, KQJTxx, or at least AQTxxx or AKxxxx. Partner can be nearly certain of six tricks with Hx opposite a maximum; may need a finesse or a bad break opposite a minimum.

    At unfavorable, 5-trick hands are now minimum; a maximum means AQJ or AKJ-high, with play for six tricks opposite xx or xxx. Hands like KQT9xx or AJT9xx are distinctly subminimum.

    The 3C rebid, on the other hand, varies only slightly with vulnerability (except that, at favorable, it will occasionally include a 5-card suit with a side stopper, SAQT9x HKxx Dxx Cxxx or similar.) The 3D rebid only slightly more, as the definition of "too strong for 2S" changes. At favorable, SKQxxxx HAxx Dxx Cxx would be strong enough to justify 3D; 3C could be as weak as SKT9xxx HQxx Dxx Cxx. At equal or unfavorable, the former would be a normal 3C bid and the latter not worth opening. Equal 3D bids will feature many 6-tricks hands that aren't well suited to a 3S opening, like SAQTxxx Hxx Dxx CKx. Unfavorable 3D rebids will overwhelmingly include a reasonable ace-high trump suit and a side ace.

    Opener's third call after 2S-2NT-3C-3H, however, is again very sensitive to the vulnerability: a "good" suit here can only be about half a trick worse than 2S-2NT-3H would promise-- good enough to produce five tricks opposite one fitting honor and six tricks opposite two, at favorable, and scaling up appropriately at equal and unfavorable.

    Examples

    Opener A:
    S A K x x x x
    H x x x
    D x x x
    C x
    Opener B:
    S K J T x x x
    H x x x
    D A x x
    C x
    Opener C:
    S K 9 x x x x
    H x x x
    D A x x
    C x
    None vul
    [table marker]

    Responder:
    S Q x x
    H A K x x
    D x x
    C A K x x
    East can visualize two different paths to a 4S game: if opener has the SAK, six spades and four side winners; or, if opener has one trump loser but any side card except the DQ, five spades and five side winners. Only if opener has a bad hand and a bad trump suit is game in danger. At unfavorable vulnerability East would simply leap to 4S.

    Playing classical Ogust, East would go on over any rebid but 3C. Playing this version, Opener A will show a good suit but no side card (2S-2NT, 3H-4S); Opener B will first show a side stopper, then show (under the circumstances) good trumps (2S-2NT, 3C-3H, 3NT-4S); Opener C will show a side stopper but then show bad trumps (2S-2NT, 3C-3H, 3S.)


    Opener:
    S K Q T x x x
    H x
    D x x x
    C x x x
     
    [table marker]

    Responder A:
    S x x
    H A x x x
    D A K Q
    C A x x x
    Responder B:
    S x x
    H A K x x
    D A x x
    C A x x x
    Vulnerability matters! Both to responder's decision whether to look for a game, and to opener's decision whether to cooperate.

    At favorable, Responder A should ask with 2NT; opener shows a maximum pure preempt with 3H (he has KQTxxx where he could have had K-empty or QJTxxx) and a good game is reached. Responder B should seriously consider passing: he should expect 8 tricks against most "bad" favorable weak twos, and 9 tricks opposite most good hands. Only the very best favorable weak twos have play for game.

    At equal, Responder A can reasonably blast to game. Responder B should ask with 2NT, and now opener shows a minimum with 3S (he has only a 4½ trick suit where he could have held six to the AK, AQT, or AQJ.) Only at unfavorable should Responder B consider blasting to game (and this opener is subminimum for an unfavorable preempt -- opening at unfavorable is a calculated risk, an effective preempt when it is the opponents' hand, but he cant be too surprised if his partner expects more and goes off one.)


    S K J 9 x x x
    H x x
    D x
    C K 7 x x
    None vul
    [table marker]

    S A
    H Q J 9 x
    D A K Q J x x
    C J T
    3NT should be an excellent contract if E-W have a club stopper; in 4S, even if the spades are solid there is a risk of 4 fast round-suit losers. 2S-2NT, 3C-3D, 3NT gets you there safely, as do classical features. A pair playing classical Ogust has to gamble, and a natural forcing 3D response does you no good at all.





    S A Q 9 x x x
    H x x
    D x x x
    C x x
    NS vul
    [table marker]

    S K x
    H A x x x
    D A x x x
    C A x x
    If the spades run, there will be 9 fast tricks in 3NT (and only 9 tricks in spades, too, since East probably can't ruff anything.) If your partner's preempts are extremely light it's safest to give up, for fear of 2S being the limit opposite QJxxxx in spades and out. If you think the odds are in your favor to bid at all, 2S-2NT-3H-3NT gets you to a 68% game.

    Classical Ogust can achieve the same result; classical features do not.



    S K Q T x x x
    H x
    D 9 x x
    C A x x
    Both vul
    [table marker]

    S A J
    H K x x
    D A Q x x
    C 9 7 x x
    East can visualize a fair chance for nine tricks opposite most minimum weak twos, so he can just barely afford to probe for game. Playing classical Ogust, South might venture 4S only after a "good hand, good suit" response. Playing this version, South learns the same information in two pieces: 2S-2NT, 3C-3H, 3NT-4S. Actually, stopping in 3NT is quite a bit safer than bidding 4S – requiring just one finesse rather than two before it is in the bag – but that probably won't occur to the average East. Perhaps it should occur to you!

    At favorable, East should abandon hopes of a tip-top maximum and pass; I would open 3S at favorable with this 5½ trick hand. (And perhaps responder should consider passing at equal too, if he isn't willing to try the 9-trick game.)


    S x x
    H A 8 7 x x x
    D A J x
    C x x
    None vul
    [table marker]

    S A x
    H K Q
    D Q x
    C A K Q J x x x
    This is a real hand from the Great Falls, MT, regional in July 2013. Playing features, it's easy for East to drive to a slam after identifying West's diamond control. Playing old-fashioned Ogust, a "good hand, bad trumps" response leaves West completely in the dark whether his side has nine tricks or thirteen. (Playing the full Preempts from A to Z system, East can start with a 4D CAB.)

    Playing the system described above, the auction might be 2H-2S(asking), 2NT(side stopper)-3C(where?), 3D(here), followed by Blackwood and a swift trip to the grand.


    S Q J x x x x
    H K Q x
    D x
    C x x x
    None vul
    [table marker]

    S K x
    H J x x
    D A x x x
    C A K x x
    This hand illustrates why the 3D "Too much to preempt" rebid is included in my system. Opener's DKQx is a flaw (With QJxxxxx KQx x xx, I would not open 3S) but otherwise the hand is the strength of a good 2S opening, and 2S seems preferable to a heavy pass or a light 1S. Responder is only interested in game opposite a maximum weak two. After the 3D reply to a 2NT ask, responder can feel confident about game. If opener had responded 3C, responder might feel insecure, especially if he used the 3H trump-quality ask and got a negative reply. Opposite AT9xxx xx Kx xxx, game would be distinctly anti-percentage.
    Opener A:
    S K Q T 9 x
    H x x
    D A x x
    C x x x
    Opener B:
    S Q J x x x x
    H x x
    D A x x
    C x x
    Opener C:
    S K Q J x x x
    H x x
    D x x x
    C x x
    Opener D:
    S K Q T x x x
    H x x
    D A x x
    C x x
    None vul
    [table marker]

    Responder:
    S A x
    H x x
    D x x x
    C K Q x x
    You want to reach game only opposite Opener D. Playing classical Ogust, East is only going to 4S if he gets a "good hand, good suit" reply. A simple "2 of the top 3 honors" approach might call K-Q-T-9-x a good suit; but on the basis of trick expectation, a very good 5-card suit is equivalent to a bad 6-card suit. Whether you get overboard opposite Opener A depends how opener describes his trump suit.

    Playing features, Opener A will surely show his DA, and so might opener B, resulting in getting too high.

    Playing the system described above, East asks with 2NT. Opener C rebids 3H showing a good pure-preempt hand but nothing outside and responder signs off. Openers A, B, and D all rebid 3C showing a side feature. Responder wishes he knew both where the feature was and how good opener's trumps were, but there isn't room to ask about both: responder must prioritize, and use the 3H trump-quality-ask rebid. Openers A and B with 4-trick trump suits rebid 3S; Opener D rebids 3NT to show his better suit.


    A final thought

    Remember that what's best over my weak twos may not be what's best over your weak twos. This system is very tuned to my agreements: 6 to at least the K or QJ, no voids, usually only one outside suit stopped; 5-card suits possible in 1st and 2nd seat only if NV; new suits natural and forcing. If you have different agreements you probably want different meanings for your responses.

    If you are happy with standard Ogust, incidentally, but wish you could save a bidding step, notice that all you need are the 3C, 3H, and 3S responses, and the rebids after the 3C-3D re-ask. If you don't care about ever finding specific stoppers, you only need three steps. (Indeed, even in my version, 2S-2NT-3D is rather under-utilized, and a prime place for you to stick whatever "nonstandard" hands you like to open with a weak two.) Maybe you want to use 2NT for something else, and want to fit a "mini-Ogust" into the 3C response:


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