In my longtime partnership with Michael Schmahl, we initially simply agreed to play all our responses to weak twos as described in Andersen and Zenkel's Preempts from A to Z: simple Ogust; new suits forcing; jump shifts control-asking bids. At some point we used a 3 response as asking for opener's singleton, but it hardly ever came up, so I can't honestly remember when we started playing it.
 response as asking for opener's singleton, but it hardly ever came up, so I can't honestly remember when we started playing it.
Eventually we got to thinking about Ogust. We quickly formalized the notion of "good suit" as "2 of the top 3 honours," as recommended in many of the standard sources. That got us wondering how best to formalize the notion of "good hand." Ultimately we agreed that our first- and second-seat weak twos would promise QJxxxx or better in our bid suit, and at most one stopper outside trump. We would use the "hand" part of Ogust to show or deny the presence of that outside stopper.
We quickly realized that we might care which stopper opener had, so we reorganized the Ogust responses to 2 and 2
 and 2 to give us room to find out:
 to give us room to find out:
 showed 1 of the top 3, and promised an outside stopper. Responder could ask where it was with 3
 showed 1 of the top 3, and promised an outside stopper. Responder could ask where it was with 3 , and opener would answer with 3 of the unbid major (natural), 3 of his own major (diamonds), or 3NT (clubs).
, and opener would answer with 3 of the unbid major (natural), 3 of his own major (diamonds), or 3NT (clubs). showed 2 of the top 3, and promised an outside stopper. There wasn't room for a full asking sequence, so we just focused on the unbid major for the followups: responder's rebid of 3 of the unbid major said "bid 3NT if you have this suit stopped."
 showed 2 of the top 3, and promised an outside stopper. There wasn't room for a full asking sequence, so we just focused on the unbid major for the followups: responder's rebid of 3 of the unbid major said "bid 3NT if you have this suit stopped."In a nutshell, 3 was the most frequent and complicated hand, and 3 of opener's major was the weakest response.
 was the most frequent and complicated hand, and 3 of opener's major was the weakest response.
This was a more comforable arrangement over 2 than over 2
 than over 2 . Over 3
. Over 3 the same principles applied, sort of: 3
 the same principles applied, sort of: 3 was as above (with responder's 3
 was as above (with responder's 3 and 3
 and 3 rebids both saying "bid 3NT if you have a stopper"), 3
 rebids both saying "bid 3NT if you have a stopper"), 3 was the weakest bid, 3
 was the weakest bid, 3 was a good suit with a stopper, and 3
 was a good suit with a stopper, and 3 was a good suit without a stopper. But it was hard to get much use out of the rearrangement of the steps over 2
 was a good suit without a stopper. But it was hard to get much use out of the rearrangement of the steps over 2 , and we both found it hard to remember the order of the steps.
, and we both found it hard to remember the order of the steps.
Michael and I tried to introduce this to a mutual third partner in 2011, but ultimately abandoned the above modification of Ogust. For a time, he went on to some other relay-like experiments, and I (shock! horror!) went back to playing Features.
In summer 2013, I got interested in Ogust refinements again. I still felt, as I did 10 years prior that 3M, not 3 , should be the weakest rebid, and 3
, should be the weakest rebid, and 3 should be the hand-type most likely to need followup questions.
 should be the hand-type most likely to need followup questions.
In the meantime, I had come to another realization: my weak two style varied dramatically with the vulnerability-- as preempts should. In effect, using classical Ogust, I would only ever use the weakest two or three responses at favorable, and would only ever use the two strongest at unfavorable. Perhaps it would make more sense to redefine the Ogust rebids on a sliding scale that matched the vulnerability.
On further reflection, I realized that the kind of hands that I opened with weak twos was affected by the vulnerability in an interesting way. For pure preempt hands, I was applying the "rule of 2, 3, and 4." With a hand like  KQJxxx
KQJxxx  xx
xx  xx
xx  xxx I almost always open at the 3-level favorable; at equal vulnerability this is a spot-on sound weak two, at unfavorable it is close to the worst pure-preempt hand I would still open 2
xxx I almost always open at the 3-level favorable; at equal vulnerability this is a spot-on sound weak two, at unfavorable it is close to the worst pure-preempt hand I would still open 2 . But there were hands with outside values that I would open with the same weak two at any vulnerability-- say
. But there were hands with outside values that I would open with the same weak two at any vulnerability-- say  KJxxxx
KJxxxx  Axx
Axx  xx
xx  xx. I adhere strictly to the "never have two defensive tricks for a preempt" rule, but am willing to open a weak two with "two aces" hands. That is -- it appears that it makes sense to vary some, but not all, of my Ogust rebid definitions with the vulnerability.
xx. I adhere strictly to the "never have two defensive tricks for a preempt" rule, but am willing to open a weak two with "two aces" hands. That is -- it appears that it makes sense to vary some, but not all, of my Ogust rebid definitions with the vulnerability.
Now, the final ingredient in creating a better Ogust: as responder, what questions do I want answered, when I use Ogust? If I care about how good your support for my suit is, I should bid my suit and see if you raise. But I might use Ogust if —
As before, our two areas of focus will be trump quality and side stoppers. How best to handle the trump quality question? "Do you have 2 of the top 3 honors?" and "Can I run your suit opposite (say) Kx" are almost but not quite the same question. And I sometimes open a weak two on a 5-card suit, at favorable vulnerability: knowing the suit will run might not always mean having six winners.
I will present my chosen solution in a table, then elaborate on how it is used and its rationale.  After 2 -2NT:
-2NT:
 : promises an outside stopper.
: promises an outside stopper. now asks where the stopper is: 3
 now asks where the stopper is: 3 hearts, 3
 hearts, 3 diamonds, 3NT clubs (or whatever permutation you find easiest to remember. To my mind, "new suit natural, clubs are touching notrump" was most intuitive.)
 diamonds, 3NT clubs (or whatever permutation you find easiest to remember. To my mind, "new suit natural, clubs are touching notrump" was most intuitive.) asks whether you have a good or bad trump suit: 3
 asks whether you have a good or bad trump suit: 3 bad, 3NT good.
 bad, 3NT good. : shows an "unusual hand", either a weak two with too much outside of trumps, or a hand that would be too strong to open only 2
: shows an "unusual hand", either a weak two with too much outside of trumps, or a hand that would be too strong to open only 2 , but has too much defense to preempt.
, but has too much defense to preempt. asks which: returning to 3
 asks which: returning to 3 shows the "two aces" hand, 3NT the "1½ tricks outside" hand.
 shows the "two aces" hand, 3NT the "1½ tricks outside" hand. : shows a pure preempt, maximum for the vulnerability.
: shows a pure preempt, maximum for the vulnerability. : shows a pure preempt, minimum for the vulnerability.
: shows a pure preempt, minimum for the vulnerability.After any of the above, responder's bid of 3 or any game or slam is to play; one can either use 4
 or any game or slam is to play; one can either use 4 as an artifical shortness-ask, or have all new-suit bids between 3M and 4M be control-asking bids (in effect asking for shortness in that suit.)
 as an artifical shortness-ask, or have all new-suit bids between 3M and 4M be control-asking bids (in effect asking for shortness in that suit.)
Over a 2 opening, 2
 opening, 2 is the asking bid; the entire structure is slid down one step (and 3
 is the asking bid; the entire structure is slid down one step (and 3 rather than 4
 rather than 4 can be the follow-up shortness ask.)
2
 can be the follow-up shortness ask.)
2 -2NT shows a spade suit. Since 2
-2NT shows a spade suit. Since 2 -2
-2 (natural and forcing)-2NT never made much sense as a natural bid anyway (opener can't have both minors stopped), loss of the extra step seems not to matter. The simplest rebid scheme after 2
(natural and forcing)-2NT never made much sense as a natural bid anyway (opener can't have both minors stopped), loss of the extra step seems not to matter. The simplest rebid scheme after 2 -2NT seems to work: 3
-2NT seems to work: 3 or 3
 or 3 , feature, no spade fit; 3
, feature, no spade fit; 3 , minimum, no spade fit; 3
, minimum, no spade fit; 3 , minimum, spade fit; jump shifts, splinters promising Hxx in spades.
, minimum, spade fit; jump shifts, splinters promising Hxx in spades.
Over a 2 opening, there is some question whether to use this structure at all; 2M natural and forcing and 2NT asking something simpler is reasonable. Alternatively, one can use 2
 opening, there is some question whether to use this structure at all; 2M natural and forcing and 2NT asking something simpler is reasonable. Alternatively, one can use 2 -2
-2 as Ogust, 2
 as Ogust, 2 -2
-2 as hearts, and 2
 as hearts, and 2 -2NT as spades. It depends how much artificiality is to your taste.
-2NT as spades. It depends how much artificiality is to your taste.
The 3 and 3
 and 3 "pure preempt" rebids vary strongly with vulnerability.
 "pure preempt" rebids vary strongly with vulnerability.
At favorable, "minimum" pure preempts ought to provide 4 tricks, or close to it: QJTxxx, or KTxxxx, or similar -- or KQJxx or AQT9x, if you open 5-card suits. "Maximum" pure preempts should provide about 4½ or more. KQxxxx, AJTxxx, AQxxxx, or AKJTx. Responder needs two of the top three to expect six tricks opposite a minimum; at least Kx, opposite a maximum.
For six-card suits, "maximum" is nearly synonymous with "2 of the top 3," except for AJT-high. Pure preempts as strong as KQJTxx or AQJxxx will likely open at the 3-level vulnerable. (KJTxxx can probably safely count itself as maximum; responder looking at  Qx will know AK-high is unlikely and a responder with Ax has an even chance at running the suit.) 
At equal, anything less than 5 tricks is minimum: KJT-, KQT-, AJT-, and AQ-empty suits. A maximum requires very good intermediates, KQJTxx, or at least AQTxxx or AKxxxx. Partner can be nearly certain of six tricks with Hx opposite a maximum; may need a finesse or a bad break opposite a minimum.
At unfavorable, 5-trick hands are now minimum; a maximum means AQJ or AKJ-high, with play for six tricks opposite xx or xxx. Hands like KQT9xx or AJT9xx are distinctly subminimum.
The 3 rebid, on the other hand, varies only slightly with vulnerability (except that, at favorable, it will occasionally include a 5-card suit with a side stopper,
 rebid, on the other hand, varies only slightly with vulnerability (except that, at favorable, it will occasionally include a 5-card suit with a side stopper,  AQT9x
AQT9x  Kxx Dxx Cxxx or similar.) The 3
Kxx Dxx Cxxx or similar.) The 3 rebid only slightly more, as the definition of "too strong for 2
 rebid only slightly more, as the definition of "too strong for 2 " changes. At favorable,
" changes. At favorable,  KQxxxx HAxx Dxx Cxx would be strong enough to justify 3
KQxxxx HAxx Dxx Cxx would be strong enough to justify 3 ; 3C could be as weak as
; 3C could be as weak as  KT9xxx
KT9xxx  Qxx Dxx Cxx. At equal or unfavorable, the former would be a normal 3
Qxx Dxx Cxx. At equal or unfavorable, the former would be a normal 3 bid and the latter not worth opening. Equal 3
 bid and the latter not worth opening. Equal 3 bids will feature many 6-tricks hands that aren't well suited to a 3
 bids will feature many 6-tricks hands that aren't well suited to a 3 opening, like
 opening, like  AQTxxx
AQTxxx  xx Dxx CKx. Unfavorable 3
xx Dxx CKx. Unfavorable 3 rebids will overwhelmingly include a reasonable ace-high trump suit and a side ace.
 rebids will overwhelmingly include a reasonable ace-high trump suit and a side ace. 
Opener's third call after 2 -2NT-3
-2NT-3 -3
-3 , however, is again very sensitive to the vulnerability:  a "good" suit here can only be about half a trick worse than 2
, however, is again very sensitive to the vulnerability:  a "good" suit here can only be about half a trick worse than 2 -2NT-3
-2NT-3 would promise-- good enough to produce five tricks opposite one fitting honor and six tricks opposite two, at favorable, and scaling up appropriately at equal and unfavorable.
 would promise-- good enough to produce five tricks opposite one fitting honor and six tricks opposite two, at favorable, and scaling up appropriately at equal and unfavorable.
| Opener A:  A K x x x x  x x x  x x x  x | Opener B:  K J T x x x  x x x  A x x  x | Opener C:  K 9 x x x x  x x x  A x x  x | None vul ![[table marker]](../../images/t.gif) | Responder:  Q x x  A K x x  x x  A K x x | 
 game: if opener has the
 game: if opener has the  AK, six spades and four side winners; or, if opener has one trump loser but any side card except the
AK, six spades and four side winners; or, if opener has one trump loser but any side card except the  Q, five spades and five side winners. Only if opener has a bad hand and a bad trump suit is game in danger. At unfavorable vulnerability East would simply leap to 4
Q, five spades and five side winners. Only if opener has a bad hand and a bad trump suit is game in danger. At unfavorable vulnerability East would simply leap to 4 .
.
Playing classical Ogust, East would go on over any rebid but 3 . Playing this version, Opener A will show a good suit but no side card (2
. Playing this version, Opener A will show a good suit but no side card (2 -2NT, 3
-2NT, 3 -4
-4 ); Opener B will first show a side stopper, then show (under the circumstances) good trumps (2
); Opener B will first show a side stopper, then show (under the circumstances) good trumps (2 -2NT, 3
-2NT, 3 -3
-3 , 3NT-4
, 3NT-4 ); Opener C will show a side stopper but then show bad trumps (2
); Opener C will show a side stopper but then show bad trumps (2 -2NT, 3
-2NT, 3 -3
-3 , 3
, 3 .)
.)
| Opener:  K Q T x x x  x  x x x  x x x | ![[table marker]](../../images/t.gif) | Responder A:  x x  A x x x  A K Q  A x x x | Responder B:  x x  A K x x  A x x  A x x x | 
At favorable, Responder A should ask with 2NT; opener shows a maximum pure preempt with 3 (he has KQTxxx where he could have had K-empty or QJTxxx) and a good game is reached. Responder B should seriously consider passing: he should expect 8 tricks against most "bad" favorable weak twos, and 9 tricks opposite most good hands. Only the very best favorable weak twos have play for game.
 (he has KQTxxx where he could have had K-empty or QJTxxx) and a good game is reached. Responder B should seriously consider passing: he should expect 8 tricks against most "bad" favorable weak twos, and 9 tricks opposite most good hands. Only the very best favorable weak twos have play for game.
At equal, Responder A can reasonably blast to game. Responder B should ask with 2NT, and now opener shows a minimum with 3 (he has only a 4½ trick suit where he could have held six to the AK, AQT, or AQJ.) Only at unfavorable should Responder B consider blasting to game (and this opener is subminimum for an unfavorable preempt -- opening at unfavorable is a calculated risk, an effective preempt when it is the opponents' hand, but he cant be too surprised if his partner expects more and goes off one.)
 (he has only a 4½ trick suit where he could have held six to the AK, AQT, or AQJ.) Only at unfavorable should Responder B consider blasting to game (and this opener is subminimum for an unfavorable preempt -- opening at unfavorable is a calculated risk, an effective preempt when it is the opponents' hand, but he cant be too surprised if his partner expects more and goes off one.)
|  K J 9 x x x  x x  x  K 7 x x | None vul ![[table marker]](../../images/t.gif) |  A  Q J 9 x  A K Q J x x  J T | 
 , even if the spades are solid there is a risk of 4 fast round-suit losers. 2
, even if the spades are solid there is a risk of 4 fast round-suit losers. 2 -2NT, 3
-2NT, 3 -3
-3 , 3NT gets you there safely, as do classical features. A pair playing classical Ogust has to gamble, and a natural forcing 3
, 3NT gets you there safely, as do classical features. A pair playing classical Ogust has to gamble, and a natural forcing 3 response does you no good at all.
 response does you no good at all.
|  A Q 9 x x x  x x  x x x  x x | NS vul ![[table marker]](../../images/t.gif) |  K x  A x x x  A x x x  A x x | 
 being the limit opposite QJxxxx in spades and out. If you think the odds are in your favor to bid at all, 2
 being the limit opposite QJxxxx in spades and out. If you think the odds are in your favor to bid at all, 2 -2NT-3
-2NT-3 -3NT gets you to a 68% game.
-3NT gets you to a 68% game.Classical Ogust can achieve the same result; classical features do not.
|  K Q T x x x  x  9 x x  A x x | Both vul ![[table marker]](../../images/t.gif) |  A J  K x x  A Q x x  9 7 x x | 
 only after a "good hand, good suit" response. Playing this version, South learns the same information in two pieces: 2
 only after a "good hand, good suit" response. Playing this version, South learns the same information in two pieces: 2 -2NT, 3
-2NT, 3 -3
-3 , 3NT-4
, 3NT-4 .  Actually, stopping in 3NT is quite a bit safer than bidding 4
.  Actually, stopping in 3NT is quite a bit safer than bidding 4 – requiring just one finesse rather than two before it is in the bag – but that probably won't occur to the average East. Perhaps it should occur to you!
 – requiring just one finesse rather than two before it is in the bag – but that probably won't occur to the average East. Perhaps it should occur to you!
At favorable, East should abandon hopes of a tip-top maximum and pass; I would open 3 at favorable with this 5½ trick hand. (And perhaps responder should consider passing at equal too, if he isn't willing to try the 9-trick game.)
 at favorable with this 5½ trick hand. (And perhaps responder should consider passing at equal too, if he isn't willing to try the 9-trick game.)
|  x x  A 8 7 x x x  A J x  x x | None vul ![[table marker]](../../images/t.gif) |  A x  K Q  Q x  A K Q J x x x | 
 CAB.)
 CAB.)
Playing the system described above, the auction might be 2 -2
-2 (asking), 2NT(side stopper)-3
(asking), 2NT(side stopper)-3 (where?), 3
(where?), 3 (here), followed by Blackwood and a swift trip to the grand.
(here), followed by Blackwood and a swift trip to the grand.
|  Q J x x x x  K Q x  x  x x x | None vul ![[table marker]](../../images/t.gif) |  K x  J x x  A x x x  A K x x | 
 "Too much to preempt" rebid is included in my system. Opener's
 "Too much to preempt" rebid is included in my system. Opener's  KQx is a flaw (With QJxxxxx KQx x xx, I would not open 3
KQx is a flaw (With QJxxxxx KQx x xx, I would not open 3 ) but otherwise the hand is the strength of a good 2
) but otherwise the hand is the strength of a good 2 opening, and 2
 opening, and 2 seems preferable to a heavy pass or a light 1
 seems preferable to a heavy pass or a light 1 . 
Responder is only interested in game opposite a maximum weak two. After the 3
. 
Responder is only interested in game opposite a maximum weak two. After the 3 reply to a 2NT ask, responder can feel confident about game. If opener had responded 3
 reply to a 2NT ask, responder can feel confident about game. If opener had responded 3 , responder might feel insecure, especially if he used the 3
, responder might feel insecure, especially if he used the 3 trump-quality ask and got a negative reply. Opposite AT9xxx xx Kx xxx, game would be distinctly anti-percentage.
 trump-quality ask and got a negative reply. Opposite AT9xxx xx Kx xxx, game would be distinctly anti-percentage.
| Opener A:  K Q T 9 x  x x  A x x  x x x | Opener B:  Q J x x x x  x x  A x x  x x | Opener C:  K Q J x x x  x x  x x x  x x | Opener D:  K Q T x x x  x x  A x x  x x | None vul ![[table marker]](../../images/t.gif) | Responder:  A x  x x  x x x  K Q x x | 
 if he gets a "good hand, good suit" reply. A simple "2 of the top 3 honors" approach might call K-Q-T-9-x a good suit; but on the basis of trick expectation, a very good 5-card suit is equivalent to a bad 6-card suit. Whether you get overboard opposite Opener A depends how opener describes his trump suit.
 if he gets a "good hand, good suit" reply. A simple "2 of the top 3 honors" approach might call K-Q-T-9-x a good suit; but on the basis of trick expectation, a very good 5-card suit is equivalent to a bad 6-card suit. Whether you get overboard opposite Opener A depends how opener describes his trump suit.
Playing features, Opener A will surely show his  A, and so might opener B, resulting in getting too high.
A, and so might opener B, resulting in getting too high.
Playing the system described above, East asks with 2NT. Opener C rebids 3 showing a good pure-preempt hand but nothing outside and responder signs off. Openers A, B, and D all rebid 3
 showing a good pure-preempt hand but nothing outside and responder signs off. Openers A, B, and D all rebid 3 showing a side feature. Responder wishes he knew both where the feature was and how good opener's trumps were, but there isn't room to ask about both: responder must prioritize, and use the 3
 showing a side feature. Responder wishes he knew both where the feature was and how good opener's trumps were, but there isn't room to ask about both: responder must prioritize, and use the 3 trump-quality-ask rebid. Openers A and B with 4-trick trump suits rebid 3
 trump-quality-ask rebid. Openers A and B with 4-trick trump suits rebid 3 ; Opener D rebids 3NT to show his better suit.
; Opener D rebids 3NT to show his better suit. 
If you are happy with standard Ogust, incidentally, but wish you could save a bidding step, notice that all you need are the 3 , 3
, 3 , and 3
, and 3 responses, and the rebids after the 3
 responses, and the rebids after the 3 -3
-3 re-ask. If you don't care about ever finding specific stoppers, you only need three steps. (Indeed, even in my version, 2
 re-ask. If you don't care about ever finding specific stoppers, you only need three steps. (Indeed, even in my version, 2 -2NT-3
-2NT-3 is rather under-utilized, and a prime place for you to stick whatever "nonstandard" hands you like to open with a weak two.) 
Maybe you want to use 2NT for something else, and want to fit a "mini-Ogust" into the 3
 is rather under-utilized, and a prime place for you to stick whatever "nonstandard" hands you like to open with a weak two.) 
Maybe you want to use 2NT for something else, and want to fit a "mini-Ogust" into the 3 response:
 response:
 : good hand. Now 3
: good hand. Now 3 asks about suit: 3
 asks about suit: 3 bad suit, anything higher, good suit.
 bad suit, anything higher, good suit. : bad hand, good suit
: bad hand, good suit : bad hand, bad suit (or the other way round if you prefer the traditional order)
: bad hand, bad suit (or the other way round if you prefer the traditional order)